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Mail From: "Anthony & Susan" <(email redacted)>
Hey Tiger brothers!
Found a guy with a 289 HO long block supposedly in good shape with the 5
bolt bell pattern. The guy wants 3995.00 for it and that sounds like a lot
of cabbage to me. What do you think of the price? Are they very rare and are
there number codes I should be aware of? He said it was a "K" motor.
Thanx
ANT
Mail From: "Anthony & Susan" <(email redacted)>
Hey Tiger brothers!
Found a guy with a 289 HO long block supposedly in good shape with the 5
bolt bell pattern. The guy wants 3995.00 for it and that sounds like a lot
of cabbage to me. What do you think of the price? Are they very rare and are
there number codes I should be aware of? He said it was a "K" motor.
Thanx
ANT
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Mail From: Larry Paulick <(email redacted)>
Tony, they are rare, and often like Algers. Many of the good Ford books have
the identifying parts, from crank damper, big and degreeded, to the paint dab
on the connecting rods.
For that money, I would want to pull the pan, do compression test, get machine
work receipts, and then look at a crate motor, that can be purchased for $3K
with a 345 hp vs the Hi Pl 271.
Old and new technology. Neat motor in its day. Must be lots of fun to adjust
solid lifters on a Hi Po Tiger. Of course the oil splatter will cut down on
the rust in the engine bay.
Larry
PS - If a HO vs Hi Po, forget it.
Anthony & Susan wrote:
> Hey Tiger brothers!
>
> Found a guy with a 289 HO long block supposedly in good shape with the 5
> bolt bell pattern. The guy wants 3995.00 for it and that sounds like a lot
> of cabbage to me. What do you think of the price? Are they very rare and are
> there number codes I should be aware of? He said it was a "K" motor.
> Thanx
> ANT
Mail From: Larry Paulick <(email redacted)>
Tony, they are rare, and often like Algers. Many of the good Ford books have
the identifying parts, from crank damper, big and degreeded, to the paint dab
on the connecting rods.
For that money, I would want to pull the pan, do compression test, get machine
work receipts, and then look at a crate motor, that can be purchased for $3K
with a 345 hp vs the Hi Pl 271.
Old and new technology. Neat motor in its day. Must be lots of fun to adjust
solid lifters on a Hi Po Tiger. Of course the oil splatter will cut down on
the rust in the engine bay.
Larry
PS - If a HO vs Hi Po, forget it.
Anthony & Susan wrote:
> Hey Tiger brothers!
>
> Found a guy with a 289 HO long block supposedly in good shape with the 5
> bolt bell pattern. The guy wants 3995.00 for it and that sounds like a lot
> of cabbage to me. What do you think of the price? Are they very rare and are
> there number codes I should be aware of? He said it was a "K" motor.
> Thanx
> ANT
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Mail From: (email redacted)
In a message dated 12/29/2001 5:56:24 AM Pacific Standard Time,
(email redacted) writes:
<< Found a guy with a 289 HO long block supposedly in good shape with the 5
bolt bell pattern. The guy wants 3995.00 for it and that sounds like a lot
of cabbage to me. What do you think of the price? Are they very rare and are
there number codes I should be aware of? He said it was a "K" motor. >>
Leave that one to the Mustang resto guys...the Tiger never had a "K" or HiPo,
so why pay the exorbinant mark up?
I'd either build or buy (crate motor) a 302, and spend the difference on rear
discs or a 5-spd conversion.
Mike
Mail From: (email redacted)
In a message dated 12/29/2001 5:56:24 AM Pacific Standard Time,
(email redacted) writes:
<< Found a guy with a 289 HO long block supposedly in good shape with the 5
bolt bell pattern. The guy wants 3995.00 for it and that sounds like a lot
of cabbage to me. What do you think of the price? Are they very rare and are
there number codes I should be aware of? He said it was a "K" motor. >>
Leave that one to the Mustang resto guys...the Tiger never had a "K" or HiPo,
so why pay the exorbinant mark up?
I'd either build or buy (crate motor) a 302, and spend the difference on rear
discs or a 5-spd conversion.
Mike
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Mail From: "Bob Palmer" <(email redacted)>
Tony,
The casting numbers for the 5-bolt HiPo blocks are C3OE-B and C4OE-B. The
blocks originally came with an orange paint mark on the rear face (in front
of the flywheel). Of course, it must have the beefier main bearing caps and
high nodular iron crank with the letter "K" stamped on next-to-last counter
weight.
Don't let Larry scare you about the problem of adjusting solid lifters.
First, you can choose to use a hydraulic cam and second, it isn't necessary
to adjust them with the motor running. It is a problem though if you use
anything but the stock stamped-metal valve covers, since the cast aluminum
ones are impossible to remove without lowering the engine an inch or so.
Bob
Mail From: "Bob Palmer" <(email redacted)>
Tony,
The casting numbers for the 5-bolt HiPo blocks are C3OE-B and C4OE-B. The
blocks originally came with an orange paint mark on the rear face (in front
of the flywheel). Of course, it must have the beefier main bearing caps and
high nodular iron crank with the letter "K" stamped on next-to-last counter
weight.
Don't let Larry scare you about the problem of adjusting solid lifters.
First, you can choose to use a hydraulic cam and second, it isn't necessary
to adjust them with the motor running. It is a problem though if you use
anything but the stock stamped-metal valve covers, since the cast aluminum
ones are impossible to remove without lowering the engine an inch or so.
Bob
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Mail From: Steve Laifman <(email redacted)>
Anthony & Susan wrote:
>
> Hey Tiger brothers!
>
> Found a guy with a 289 HO long block supposedly in good shape with the 5
> bolt bell pattern. The guy wants 3995.00 for it and that sounds like a lot
> of cabbage to me. What do you think of the price? Are they very rare and are
> there number codes I should be aware of? He said it was a "K" motor.
> Thanx
> ANT
YES, there are a lot of codes available, and many listed in HPBooks "how
to rebuild your SMALL BLOCK FORD ENGINE, by Tom Monroe. Recommend it.
The HiPo had some nice features, for the mid-60's, and such a 5 bolt is
only in the first Mustangs out. These are essential for a Show Car
Mustang that wants originality.
The compression ratio is higher, the valve springs, cam, higher
nodularaity iron crank than normal, stronger rods, weaker timing chain
due to internal weight, big crank dampner.
With the price of a crate Motorsport 5.0, with roller cams, aluminum or
steel heads, 4 horsepower (cam) choices, the unit can be installed, or
older version front cover to look more like stock. Need to work on the 6
bolt issue, but not a large problem.
See articles in Performance Tuning, in the Tech Tips section of TigersUnited.com
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Mail From: Steve Laifman <(email redacted)>
Anthony & Susan wrote:
>
> Hey Tiger brothers!
>
> Found a guy with a 289 HO long block supposedly in good shape with the 5
> bolt bell pattern. The guy wants 3995.00 for it and that sounds like a lot
> of cabbage to me. What do you think of the price? Are they very rare and are
> there number codes I should be aware of? He said it was a "K" motor.
> Thanx
> ANT
YES, there are a lot of codes available, and many listed in HPBooks "how
to rebuild your SMALL BLOCK FORD ENGINE, by Tom Monroe. Recommend it.
The HiPo had some nice features, for the mid-60's, and such a 5 bolt is
only in the first Mustangs out. These are essential for a Show Car
Mustang that wants originality.
The compression ratio is higher, the valve springs, cam, higher
nodularaity iron crank than normal, stronger rods, weaker timing chain
due to internal weight, big crank dampner.
With the price of a crate Motorsport 5.0, with roller cams, aluminum or
steel heads, 4 horsepower (cam) choices, the unit can be installed, or
older version front cover to look more like stock. Need to work on the 6
bolt issue, but not a large problem.
See articles in Performance Tuning, in the Tech Tips section of TigersUnited.com
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Steve Laifman
Editor
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