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Mail From: Steve Laifman <(email redacted)>

Larrys (plural),

What a marvelous opportunity. Two friends, living in close proximity,
with different set-ups for vented rotors.

From what I gather, both are the same components, but The Wright Guy
has a big muscle below his navel (stop bragging, the ladies might get
disappointed in the reality ;-) )

I suggest a true side-by-side stopping test, between you two, including
driver changes, and different braking rates, to really compare the
influence of servos, as well as the influence of those Kustom rotors
(got a friend with stock brakes?)

It would go far in verifying truth from bullsh-t.

I wish there were a simple force gauge that you could use to calibrate
actual pedal forces, but if we switch drivers (assuming some degree of
memory) we can get a "judgment". Probably Theo has a simple pedal force
gage you can make using some turkey eggs on his site?

This combination of equipment, location, and availability are unusual.
Please make use of it, and let us all know "just the facts, ma'am!"

Best to All,

Steve

Lawrence Wright wrote:

> I've been using his Front Vented Rotor Kit since 1999, no complaints. OTOH,
>I probably don't work the brakes all that hard. I have more than once here
>vented a bit about his "you're a bright boy, you'll figure it out" customer
>support program, but even I managed to install these. :^O
>
> BTW, no booster, never had one. I drove Larry Paulick's car around the
>block once but I really don't recall what his felt like w/a booster, so I
>cannot compare. I used to do some bicycle racing, so my leg muscles are about
>the only developed ones on my body, so perhaps the extra pedal effort doesn't
>bother me. :^/
>
> Larry Wright
>
>
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Steve Laifman
Editor
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Mail From: "Theo Smit" <(email redacted)>

Turkey eggs? Never considered that... You ought to go with what's locally
available, which is why mine is made from some grizzly fur and pine bark
that I scavenged from a recent trip to the mountains.

Theo

-----Original Message-----
From: (email redacted) [mailtoemail redacted)] On
Behalf Of Steve Laifman
Sent: August 21, 2004 4:48 PM
To: Lawrence Wright; Larry Paulick
Cc: Tiger's Den; Theo Smit
Subject: Re: Stopping - JUST THE FACTS, Ma'am!

Larrys (plural),
<snip>
I wish there were a simple force gauge that you could use to calibrate
actual pedal forces, but if we switch drivers (assuming some degree of
memory) we can get a "judgment". Probably Theo has a simple pedal force gage
you can make using some turkey eggs on his site?
<snip>

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Mail From: Steve Laifman <(email redacted)>

Theo,

"Turkeys" are probably unfamiliar to dwellers in the far north. They
were first introduced to the US pilgrims by tribal indians, and are
eaten on Thanksgiving Festivals in October, and Subway Sandwich shops.
A lower North American breed they are flightless birds with bare heads,
like predators, and are ugly as they are large. Well made, they are a
tasty repast and have large eggs. I have never seen them prepared to
eat like chicken eggs, though.

Well, one makes do with local materials, as you say. Tapping and
drilling the shell for a pressure transducer is a difficult operation,
sometimes involving advanced machining techniques.

By now our expatriate, Tim Ronak, must have been force fed this local
delicacy and can describe it to you, eh?

Come on down some day and find out. ;-)

From your few generations removed Canuck,

Steve

Theo Smit wrote:

>Turkey eggs? Never considered that... You ought to go with what's locally
>available, which is why mine is made from some grizzly fur and pine bark
>that I scavenged from a recent trip to the mountains.
>
>Theo
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: (email redacted) [mailtoemail redacted)] On
>Behalf Of Steve Laifman
>Sent: August 21, 2004 4:48 PM
>To: Lawrence Wright; Larry Paulick
>Cc: Tiger's Den; Theo Smit
>Subject: Re: Stopping - JUST THE FACTS, Ma'am!
>
>Larrys (plural),
><snip>
>I wish there were a simple force gauge that you could use to calibrate
>actual pedal forces, but if we switch drivers (assuming some degree of
>memory) we can get a "judgment". Probably Theo has a simple pedal force gage
>you can make using some turkey eggs on his site?
><snip>
>
>
>
>

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Steve Laifman
Editor
TigersUnited.com

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Mail From: "Theo Smit" <(email redacted)>

Hi Steve,
Thanks for the description. Actually, thanks to the reach of the US media,
we're already quite familiar with turkeys up here. And besides that, those
gobblers are good eating too.



Theo

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Good eating.....that's why they fly! Actually saw one wearing Licra the other
day....increased velocity by 12.02845 %.

Moonstone

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Turkey's can fly! I have a picture of one (or maybe that was Laifman boarding
a 747)


Moonstone

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I can confirm the observation that turkeys can fly, at least the Massachusetts wild turkeys. One wandered into my front yard, so I chased it around to the back, so that my dog, reclining in the sun, could have some fun. Poor Daisy nearly jumped off our high deck as it flew past the and headed well out into the woods.

Stu

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Okay, on the turkeys to get the facts straight. Turkeys were reintroduced
into Vermont about 10 yrs and they have really flourished. They usually flock
up with about 10-20 to a group and more than once I could have wiped out a
bunch with my car as they crossed the road. The problem is that they are
impossible to eat. A good friend hunts them and says that he's tried every way to
prepare them and the legs just aren't edible and the lighter meat not much
better. He said it's like trying to eat leather and rubber mixed. So, the moral is
if you travel in the Northeast, don't plan on getting a free Thanksgiving
meal with you car!
Mark L.

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Come to Calif. our wild turkeys taste great...have two in the refer right
now. Got em with the Chevelle not the Tiger

Moonstone

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Steve,

Glad to see you locating Thanksgiving in October, where it so rightly
belongs. Up here in God's country we've heard rumours of some such
festival down there in the Big Smoke celebrated in November, if you can
believe it! Why anyone would put a harvest celebration in the middle of
Winter escapes us. We're totally out of vegetables by mid-November, and
how would we capture our traditional Thanksgiving Grizzly? All sensible
bears are hibernating by then!

Snow Goose eggs, that might be our equivalent. We've pawned off all of our
Canada Geese on you guys...

Michael



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Theo,

"Turkeys" are probably unfamiliar to dwellers in the far north. They
were first introduced to the US pilgrims by tribal indians, and are
eaten on Thanksgiving Festivals in October, and Subway Sandwich shops.
A lower North American breed they are flightless birds with bare heads,
like predators, and are ugly as they are large. Well made, they are a
tasty repast and have large eggs. I have never seen them prepared to
eat like chicken eggs, though.

Well, one makes do with local materials, as you say. Tapping and
drilling the shell for a pressure transducer is a difficult operation,
sometimes involving advanced machining techniques.

By now our expatriate, Tim Ronak, must have been force fed this local
delicacy and can describe it to you, eh?

Come on down some day and find out. ;-)

From your few generations removed Canuck,

Steve






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Mail From: Steve Laifman <(email redacted)>

Michael,

Thanks for the view from the far side of the country. It is always
refreshing to get a "foreign" point of view. Like the French
gratefulness for saving their country for them, they have not forgiven
us yet.

You know, I have two things working against me. First, a friend told me
that the thing he disliked most about retirement is that you lose your
weekends. :-)

True.

Second, to us guys, way out west here, we also lose our seasons. The
weather barely changes, although some things seem to mysteriously become
periodically unavailable at the supermarkets. I remember, once, it
rained - and I saw snow at Big Bear (so THAT's what it looks like!) All
those great movie "Winter Scenes" were shot in Burbank, CA, using Ivory
Snow soap box contents and fans.

You'll just have to excuse us poor folk who have never actually
experienced a "season" from not knowing one from another, or why some
people think November is colder than August. "Months" are just an
excuse to sell more calendar pages. BTW: What is a "harvest"?
Seasonally, or thereabouts, we get the asphalt dug up, resurfaced, then
trenched for the wires and pipes they scheduled for later. Is that the
"reaping and sowing season'?

Just like the Australians don't pick up on the concept of snow in December!


LOL,

Steve

(email redacted) wrote:

>Steve,
>
>Glad to see you locating Thanksgiving in October, where it so rightly
>belongs. Up here in God's country we've heard rumours of some such
>festival down there in the Big Smoke celebrated in November, if you can
>believe it! Why anyone would put a harvest celebration in the middle of
>Winter escapes us. We're totally out of vegetables by mid-November, and
>how would we capture our traditional Thanksgiving Grizzly? All sensible
>bears are hibernating by then!
>
>Snow Goose eggs, that might be our equivalent. We've pawned off all of our
>Canada Geese on you guys...
>
>Michael
>
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Steve Laifman
Editor
TigersUnited.com