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Following the thread by Bill and Andy, I had just been reading a
Competition Press story on "How do '64 Production Car Classes Look?"
with comparison fastest lap times at Riverside. These were times
from the Divisional held in Jan 1964. For reference the race cars
were honestly production cars with production parts - SCCA rules were
that strict (believe it or not, it wasn't until 64' that you could
run .040" over pistons. I don't even think you could run flat tops
unless it was a feature of the car - the "factory Option list" game
was just beginning)

Here's what they listed:

H- sprite 2:05
F- TR-3 1:54
F- Sunbeam Alpine 1:55
E- Porsche (N) 1:51
E- Elva Courier 1:54
E- Morgan Plus 4 1:54
E- A-H 100/4 1:55
D- AH 3000 1:49
D- TR-4 1:50
D- AC Bristol 1:53
D- Lotus Elite 1:55
C- Morgan SS 1:46
C- Lotus Super 7 1:47
B- Corvette 1:47
B- Jaguar XKE 1:54
A- Cobra 1:43
A- Sting Ray 1:44

Again, This is Riverside, 2.8 miles long, 8 turns. So, having top
mph would really payoff in a faster lap time. As a note the Alpine
won on Saturday and led on Sunday until retiring. Also note, in 1963
the Alpine was lumped in with E-Production and did OK - Don Sesslar
tied for E-P national championship points and Ed Lamb won the SW
division.

They even mention the 283 Corvettes will dominate B-P until the
Alpine-Ford (Tiger yet, un-named) arrives.

Steve Silverstein
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I had left off the MGA at 1:57

Steve


On Apr 18, 2008, at 6:33 AM, Steven silverstein wrote:

> Following the thread by Bill and Andy, I had just been reading a
> Competition Press story on "How do '64 Production Car Classes
> Look?" with comparison fastest lap times at Riverside. These
> were times from the Divisional held in Jan 1964. For reference
> the race cars were honestly production cars with production parts -
> SCCA rules were that strict (believe it or not, it wasn't until
> 64' that you could run .040" over pistons. I don't even think you
> could run flat tops unless it was a feature of the car - the
> "factory Option list" game was just beginning)
>
> Here's what they listed:
>
> H- sprite 2:05
> F- TR-3 1:54
> F- Sunbeam Alpine 1:55
> E- Porsche (N) 1:51
> E- Elva Courier 1:54
> E- Morgan Plus 4 1:54
> E- A-H 100/4 1:55
> D- AH 3000 1:49
> D- TR-4 1:50
> D- AC Bristol 1:53
> D- Lotus Elite 1:55
> C- Morgan SS 1:46
> C- Lotus Super 7 1:47
> B- Corvette 1:47
> B- Jaguar XKE 1:54
> A- Cobra 1:43
> A- Sting Ray 1:44
>
> Again, This is Riverside, 2.8 miles long, 8 turns. So, having top
> mph would really payoff in a faster lap time. As a note the
> Alpine won on Saturday and led on Sunday until retiring. Also
> note, in 1963 the Alpine was lumped in with E-Production and did OK
> - Don Sesslar tied for E-P national championship points and Ed Lamb
> won the SW division.
>
> They even mention the 283 Corvettes will dominate B-P until the
> Alpine-Ford (Tiger yet, un-named) arrives.
>
> Steve Silverstein
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Mail From: Steven silverstein <(email redacted)>

F-production Lotus 7A at 1:55


So, the F-production class was a very tight field. How the Tiger's
lap times compare at Riverside is hard to say... I think I remember
seeing something in the 1:48-9 range but I can't remember what year
or who even was driving - or if it was the fastest lap for any
participating Tiger so it really isn't an good example. Surely,
somebody has the laptimes from the ARRC held in 1964.


Steve
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