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Mail From: Tod Brown <(email redacted)>
OK, here's another one for all the trivia experts out there.
I have not driven the Tiger at night for quite a while, so when I went
out last night to pull the Tiger into my garage, I turned on the lights
to discover that a couple of the instrument bulbs were out. I also
noticed that the bulbs that were on, were very dim, more so than I had
remembered (probably a sign of advancing age on my part). (What are the
positions on the Lucas 3-way switches in a British car - Off, Dim &
Flicker ;>
). Anyway, I remember somewhere in my foggy brain that I
once saw a reference to a replacement bulb that was brighter than the
stock bulb but I cannot locate the reference. Anyone know what I am
talking about or is there a more modern (i.e. LED or halogen) bulb that
will work and where can I get them?
Thanks,
Tod
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Mail From: Tod Brown <(email redacted)>
OK, here's another one for all the trivia experts out there.
I have not driven the Tiger at night for quite a while, so when I went
out last night to pull the Tiger into my garage, I turned on the lights
to discover that a couple of the instrument bulbs were out. I also
noticed that the bulbs that were on, were very dim, more so than I had
remembered (probably a sign of advancing age on my part). (What are the
positions on the Lucas 3-way switches in a British car - Off, Dim &
Flicker ;>
). Anyway, I remember somewhere in my foggy brain that I once saw a reference to a replacement bulb that was brighter than the
stock bulb but I cannot locate the reference. Anyone know what I am
talking about or is there a more modern (i.e. LED or halogen) bulb that
will work and where can I get them?
Thanks,
Tod
B382002384LRXFE
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Mail From: Steve Laifman <(email redacted)>
Tod,
Bless the British automobile design criteria. The major problem with
electrics on older cars is the tendency of the poor light grounds to
have higher and higher grounding resistance. Check all your frame
grounds, make sure they are not rusty.
A clear coating over an assembled ground strap can reduce the rate of
corrosion.
Yes, "Off, Dim & Flicker" are the standard for lights, while slow,
slower, and intermittent are the standard for wipers. ;-)
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Tod Brown wrote:
> OK, here's another one for all the trivia experts out there.
>
> I have not driven the Tiger at night for quite a while, so when I went
> out last night to pull the Tiger into my garage, I turned on the
> lights to discover that a couple of the instrument bulbs were out. I
> also noticed that the bulbs that were on, were very dim, more so than
> I had remembered (probably a sign of advancing age on my part). (What
> are the positions on the Lucas 3-way switches in a British car - Off,
> Dim & Flicker ;>
). Anyway, I remember somewhere in my foggy brain
> that I once saw a reference to a replacement bulb that was brighter
> than the stock bulb but I cannot locate the reference. Anyone know
> what I am talking about or is there a more modern (i.e. LED or
> halogen) bulb that will work and where can I get them?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tod
> B382002384LRXFE
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Mail From: Steve Laifman <(email redacted)>
Tod,
Bless the British automobile design criteria. The major problem with
electrics on older cars is the tendency of the poor light grounds to
have higher and higher grounding resistance. Check all your frame
grounds, make sure they are not rusty.
A clear coating over an assembled ground strap can reduce the rate of
corrosion.
Yes, "Off, Dim & Flicker" are the standard for lights, while slow,
slower, and intermittent are the standard for wipers. ;-)
Steve
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Tod Brown wrote:
> OK, here's another one for all the trivia experts out there.
>
> I have not driven the Tiger at night for quite a while, so when I went
> out last night to pull the Tiger into my garage, I turned on the
> lights to discover that a couple of the instrument bulbs were out. I
> also noticed that the bulbs that were on, were very dim, more so than
> I had remembered (probably a sign of advancing age on my part). (What
> are the positions on the Lucas 3-way switches in a British car - Off,
> Dim & Flicker ;>
). Anyway, I remember somewhere in my foggy brain > that I once saw a reference to a replacement bulb that was brighter
> than the stock bulb but I cannot locate the reference. Anyone know
> what I am talking about or is there a more modern (i.e. LED or
> halogen) bulb that will work and where can I get them?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tod
> B382002384LRXFE
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Mail From: Dave Munroe <(email redacted)>
Hi Tod:
There was an early attempt to brighten up our instruments with 2.5 Volt
bulbs you could buy at the Radio Shack. Putting 12V through these low
voltage bulbs made them a lot brighter, but they didn't last very long...I
remember something like an hour or two.
But for you and other "night vision challenged" Tiger drivers like myself,
the real answer to your problem of instruments that cannot be seen in the
dark, click on:
lbcarco.com/
This is complex website with tons of goodies for our cars. Click on the
above link, and then when it opens:
Click on "Special Offers and great gift ideas"
Scroll down and click on: "Halogen Bulbs & Headlamps"
Then click on: "List ALL 12V Halogen Bulbs"
Fill your boots, but bring lots of money, they are expensive.
I have had these bulbs in my MGB and my Tiger for more than 5 years each,
and they are literally fantastic. I met the gentleman who owns the Little
British Car Co
several years ago at the British Invasion in Stowe, VT, and inquired as to
the relatively high price of these bulbs. He told me they are hand made by a
gentleman in Australia, who buys the halogen elements and hand-fits the
various bases found in our "LBC's".
While I first fit them to my MGB, the instruments in almost all LBC's are
the same, so the bulbs are completely inter-changeable with our Tigers..
I also fit the dual filament halogen bulbs to my tail/brake light sockets,
and have had many comments about their brightness. A friend who followed me
home one dark night thought my brake lights were stuck on until I actually
braked for a stop sign and the real brake lights came on!
Try 'em you'll like 'em.
Dave
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From: "Tod Brown" <(email redacted)>
To: <(email redacted)>
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 2:18 PM
Subject: [Tigers] Instrument Bulbs
> OK, here's another one for all the trivia experts out there.
>
> I have not driven the Tiger at night for quite a while, so when I went out
> last night to pull the Tiger into my garage, I turned on the lights to
> discover that a couple of the instrument bulbs were out. I also noticed
> that the bulbs that were on, were very dim, more so than I had remembered
> (probably a sign of advancing age on my part). (What are the positions on
> the Lucas 3-way switches in a British car - Off, Dim & Flicker ;>
).
> Anyway, I remember somewhere in my foggy brain that I once saw a reference
> to a replacement bulb that was brighter than the stock bulb but I cannot
> locate the reference. Anyone know what I am talking about or is there a
> more modern (i.e. LED or halogen) bulb that will work and where can I get
> them?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tod
> B382002384LRXFE
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Mail From: Dave Munroe <(email redacted)>
Hi Tod:
There was an early attempt to brighten up our instruments with 2.5 Volt
bulbs you could buy at the Radio Shack. Putting 12V through these low
voltage bulbs made them a lot brighter, but they didn't last very long...I
remember something like an hour or two.
But for you and other "night vision challenged" Tiger drivers like myself,
the real answer to your problem of instruments that cannot be seen in the
dark, click on:
lbcarco.com/
This is complex website with tons of goodies for our cars. Click on the
above link, and then when it opens:
Click on "Special Offers and great gift ideas"
Scroll down and click on: "Halogen Bulbs & Headlamps"
Then click on: "List ALL 12V Halogen Bulbs"
Fill your boots, but bring lots of money, they are expensive.
I have had these bulbs in my MGB and my Tiger for more than 5 years each,
and they are literally fantastic. I met the gentleman who owns the Little
British Car Co
several years ago at the British Invasion in Stowe, VT, and inquired as to
the relatively high price of these bulbs. He told me they are hand made by a
gentleman in Australia, who buys the halogen elements and hand-fits the
various bases found in our "LBC's".
While I first fit them to my MGB, the instruments in almost all LBC's are
the same, so the bulbs are completely inter-changeable with our Tigers..
I also fit the dual filament halogen bulbs to my tail/brake light sockets,
and have had many comments about their brightness. A friend who followed me
home one dark night thought my brake lights were stuck on until I actually
braked for a stop sign and the real brake lights came on!
Try 'em you'll like 'em.
Dave
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From: "Tod Brown" <(email redacted)>
To: <(email redacted)>
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 2:18 PM
Subject: [Tigers] Instrument Bulbs
> OK, here's another one for all the trivia experts out there.
>
> I have not driven the Tiger at night for quite a while, so when I went out
> last night to pull the Tiger into my garage, I turned on the lights to
> discover that a couple of the instrument bulbs were out. I also noticed
> that the bulbs that were on, were very dim, more so than I had remembered
> (probably a sign of advancing age on my part). (What are the positions on
> the Lucas 3-way switches in a British car - Off, Dim & Flicker ;>
). > Anyway, I remember somewhere in my foggy brain that I once saw a reference
> to a replacement bulb that was brighter than the stock bulb but I cannot
> locate the reference. Anyone know what I am talking about or is there a
> more modern (i.e. LED or halogen) bulb that will work and where can I get
> them?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tod
> B382002384LRXFE
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Mail From: Dave Munroe <(email redacted)>
Hi Larry;
I have had this question from many to whom I have shown my bright lights.
But after 5 years in two cars and some (est) 12 - 15,000 miles, I see
absolutely no problem.
With a caveat that in the MGB, there is a light dimmer switch and I don't
drive at night with the instruments lit up on full bright..they are just too
bright. On the Tiger or course there is no such potentiometer, and I am
only just starting to put some serious miles on the Cat, so as a guess
there are likely fewer than 2,000 miles driven with the panel lights on.
As you know, in Canada we have a requirement to keep the headlights on at
all times, so during the day I turn off the panel lights when the headlights
are on.
But I have seen no signs of excessive heat in either my instruments or in
the tail light housings, where I also have these bulbs fitted,
I do note that the price has increased rather dramatically in the recent
past. When I bought mine back in 2003 and 2005, they were approx $12 each
(bad enough!) but now they are selling for $20 each. (Currently on sale for
roughly $15 each at LBCarCo), apparently due to the recent fall of the
dollar against the Ozzie buck. A serious commitment from the night vision
challenged!
Works for me...
Cheers,
Dave
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From: "Larry Paulick" <(email redacted)>
To: "Dave Munroe" <(email redacted)>
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Instrument Bulbs
> Hi Dave, how is the heat. Halogens generally produce a lot of heat and in
> a confined space, I would have some concern. Do they feel hot after on
> for .5, 1 hour?
>
> Larry
>
> Dave Munroe wrote:
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Hi Larry;
I have had this question from many to whom I have shown my bright lights.
But after 5 years in two cars and some (est) 12 - 15,000 miles, I see
absolutely no problem.
With a caveat that in the MGB, there is a light dimmer switch and I don't
drive at night with the instruments lit up on full bright..they are just too
bright. On the Tiger or course there is no such potentiometer, and I am
only just starting to put some serious miles on the Cat, so as a guess
there are likely fewer than 2,000 miles driven with the panel lights on.
As you know, in Canada we have a requirement to keep the headlights on at
all times, so during the day I turn off the panel lights when the headlights
are on.
But I have seen no signs of excessive heat in either my instruments or in
the tail light housings, where I also have these bulbs fitted,
I do note that the price has increased rather dramatically in the recent
past. When I bought mine back in 2003 and 2005, they were approx $12 each
(bad enough!) but now they are selling for $20 each. (Currently on sale for
roughly $15 each at LBCarCo), apparently due to the recent fall of the
dollar against the Ozzie buck. A serious commitment from the night vision
challenged!
Works for me...
Cheers,
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Paulick" <(email redacted)>
To: "Dave Munroe" <(email redacted)>
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Instrument Bulbs
> Hi Dave, how is the heat. Halogens generally produce a lot of heat and in
> a confined space, I would have some concern. Do they feel hot after on
> for .5, 1 hour?
>
> Larry
>
> Dave Munroe wrote:
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