Tigers List Archive

This read-only message was archived from a public mail list.
Mail From: Anita Barrett <(email redacted)>

Tigers,
Thought you might be interested in the following data from my 1976 302
boat motor. The following part numbers are from Ford Power Products Parts list
for Gasoline Marine Engine Jan 1977. Note that the marine 302 engine comes
standard
with 351W heads and a 4 barrel Holly carb.
Cylinder Assy 6009 ( short block) 71/76 D5JE-6009-ABA 4V Standard Rotation
Cylinder Assy 6009 ( short block) 77/ D7JE-6009-GAUA 4V Standard Rotation
Cylinder Head Assy 77/ D7OZ-6049-CC
Cylinder Head Bolts 74/ C20Z-6065-A and C20Z-6065-B
Cylinder Head Gaskets 71/ D7JE-6051-BB and D7JE-6051-AB
Cam Shaft 71/ D2JE-6250-BA Standard Rotation
Valve Spring 77/ DOOZ-6513-B Intake
Valve Spring 77/ DOOZ-6513-A3A Exhaust
Push Rod 71/76 C90Z-6565-B Standard 6.905 Long
Push Rod 71/ DOOZ-6565-C .060 Undersize
Push Rod 71/ DOOZ-6565-D .060 Oversize
My boat motor used Hydralic lifters.
Salt water cooled exhaust manifolds failed and I had to rebuild it twice due to
salt water in the cylinders. Finally sold the boat.

I rebuilt the original Tiger II 289 several years ago.
I used the old Marine Cam in my 289/351W head motor and the tork
was great.
I used generic 351W rebuilt heads that I had planed down so that both sides
matched in CC. Ported the heads a bit. Spent $1000 at the doctor getting
steel chips
out of my eye as a result. ( This was with safty glasses and goggles too.)
I drilled the steam holes in the block to match the 351W head gaskets
as was recommended at that time. I used the original 289 head bolts with no
problem.
I did buy a set of the special 302/351W bolts and they are still in the
original package.
Used Pop up PAW cast pistons for a total of measured 10.5
static compression. Also threaded the heads for studs and push rod guides.
Used PAW studs and they were too soft. Rocker arm wore one in two and it
failed. Replaced with Mr. Gasket studs and no more problems.
First Used PAW "hardened push rods" and they almost wore in two.
Replaced with 302 hardened push rods from Ford MotorSports.
I did not notice any problem with the push rod length.
Used cheap PAW lifters and they were terrible. At high RPM ,say at an autocross
run, they made a terrible clacking noise for a few minutes after the run.
Used Edelbrock 4 barrel intake with 1860 Holly carb. The motor was a lot
stronger than the
original 289; but I had to go bigger so now I have the 351C in my Tiger.
The 289 with
351 heads sets under my work bench now.

Recommend that you use PAW parts for a 49 ford junker but nothing else!

Check with your local Ford Marine/Industral engine dealer to get the
special parts
or information on a 302/351W head motor.
Jim Barrett Tiger II 351C and others

This read-only message was archived from a public mail list.
Mail From: (email redacted)

In a message dated 97-09-09 02:49:57 EDT, (email redacted) (Anita
Barrett) writes:

<< out of my eye as a result. ( This was with safty glasses and goggles
too.)
I drilled the steam holes in the block to match the 351W head gaskets
as was recommended at that time. I used the original 289 head bolts with no
problem.
I di >>
Do these 'steam' holes correspond with the lozenge shaped holes on the intake
side of the head? Are they the equivalent of the small hole just over the
bore in the 289-302 block?
Ray

This read-only message was archived from a public mail list.
Mail From: Allan Connell <(email redacted)>

Jim,

Nice to finally find out how that Tiger II 351C came to be!!

Thanks,

Allan
B9472373

This read-only message was archived from a public mail list.
Mail From: (email redacted) (Bob Palmer)

Jim,

Your full-face helmet works just great for doing this job. Keeps the chips
from getting in your hair, your ears, dropping down your shirt, etc., etc.
I had the same problem you describe until I started using my helmet.

By the way, I also drilled the block of my 289 to match the "steam holes"
for the 351 heads. The addition of these holes lends some credibility to
the notion of steam in the block. At the very least, they would purge the
air out of the block a little faster.

Bob


>Tigers,
- - - - - - - - - -
>I used generic 351W rebuilt heads that I had planed down so that both sides
>matched in CC. Ported the heads a bit. Spent $1000 at the doctor getting
>steel chips
>out of my eye as a result. ( This was with safty glasses and goggles too.)
- - - - - - - - -