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Mail From: "maxim" <(email redacted)>

I have been fiddling around with my front suspension lately. I have two
factory workshop manuals for my Alpine: one in english, the other in German.

the english one, lists
Castor as 3 degrees 15', and Camber as 0 degrees 30', while the german one
states
Castor as 4 degrees 41', and Camber as 0 degrees 45'.

Any opinions on which one is right?


Chris Jensen
Series II

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Mail From: (email redacted)

Hi Maxim or Chris--whichever is right:
I was at Smitty's and he has a copy of the Clymer publications Sunbeam
Owners Handbook of Maintenence and Repair that, based on what you
showed, combines the caster from the german, camber from the english:
Caster: 4 degrees, 41'
Camber: 0 degrees, 30' +- 15'.

Which basically seems to confuse things further.

For myself, I rather suspect that for day to day use it doesn't matter
very much which is used--the caster and camber police haven't been by to
haul me off yet and as I recall when I got the alignment adjusted the
alignment guy wasn't able to get it to match the above specs exactly
anyway. 'Course my tires are old and cruddy and need to be replaced
anyway.

Regards

David Sosna
S4 GT V6

maxim wrote:
>
> I have been fiddling around with my front suspension lately. I have two
> factory workshop manuals for my Alpine: one in english, the other in German.
>
> the english one, lists
> Castor as 3 degrees 15', and Camber as 0 degrees 30', while the german one
> states
> Castor as 4 degrees 41', and Camber as 0 degrees 45'.
>
> Any opinions on which one is right?
>
> Chris Jensen
> Series II

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Mail From: "maxim" <(email redacted)>

David,

thank you for the answer.
I realize that caster and camber aren't the most important parameters, but I
wanted to make sure I have the right values before I put the car on one of
those digital miracle machines.

That german workshop manual is quite impressive, by the way. I have never
seen a technical book translated so well. Having worked with technical
translations into german myself, I can imagine how much time and money was
invested into making it.
Compared to the mumbo jumbo, filled with unintentional sexual and
scatological innuendo that modern companies sometimes put out, it is
impressive to see how much work Rootes put into the for them small german
market.

Chris


----- Original Message -----
From: <(email redacted)>
To: "maxim" <(email redacted)>
Cc: "alpines" <(email redacted)>
Sent: 21. oktober 2000 22:16
Subject: Re: Castor / Camber


> Hi Maxim or Chris--whichever is right:
> I was at Smitty's and he has a copy of the Clymer publications Sunbeam
> Owners Handbook of Maintenence and Repair that, based on what you
> showed, combines the caster from the german, camber from the english:
> Caster: 4 degrees, 41'
> Camber: 0 degrees, 30' +- 15'.
>
> Which basically seems to confuse things further.
>
> For myself, I rather suspect that for day to day use it doesn't matter
> very much which is used--the caster and camber police haven't been by to
> haul me off yet and as I recall when I got the alignment adjusted the
> alignment guy wasn't able to get it to match the above specs exactly
> anyway. 'Course my tires are old and cruddy and need to be replaced
> anyway.
>
> Regards
>
> David Sosna
> S4 GT V6
>
> maxim wrote:
> >
> > I have been fiddling around with my front suspension lately. I have two
> > factory workshop manuals for my Alpine: one in english, the other in
German.
> >
> > the english one, lists
> > Castor as 3 degrees 15', and Camber as 0 degrees 30', while the german
one
> > states
> > Castor as 4 degrees 41', and Camber as 0 degrees 45'.
> >
> > Any opinions on which one is right?
> >
> > Chris Jensen
> > Series II

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Mail From: "J Arzt" <(email redacted)>

The only potential difference I can see, is the English specs might be for
an English car, RHD. The German market car would certainly be LHD.

Do we know if they printed a different English manual for the US market?


Jon Arzt


>From: "maxim" <(email redacted)>
>Reply-To: "maxim" <(email redacted)>
>To: "alpines" <(email redacted)>
>Subject: Castor / Camber
>Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 00:46:42 -0400
>
>I have been fiddling around with my front suspension lately. I have two
>factory workshop manuals for my Alpine: one in english, the other in
>German.
>
>the english one, lists
>Castor as 3 degrees 15', and Camber as 0 degrees 30', while the german one
>states
>Castor as 4 degrees 41', and Camber as 0 degrees 45'.
>
>Any opinions on which one is right?
>
>
>Chris Jensen
>Series II
>
>

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